SStug III and T34

Just wondering if anyone can tell me what the paints are for the Stug III and T34? It doesn't seem to say on the page and I don't want to have to make two spererate purchases and end up paying more for postage than the paints are actually worth. 

Cheers 

Tomek22

167 posts

for both Tanks are several colors possible. if you specify your question I can maybe help. what producer do you use?

Ratch

2617 posts


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From what I've read, Russian paints were inconsistent, this is at Cobbaton Tank Museum

The German temperate scheme was 7021 Dunkelgrau Nr. 46 Schwartzgrau – Panzergrau, the vehicle base colour from 1937 - 1943, use Hu: 67 Matt Tank Grey

For the desert scheme use Hu: 94 Matt Brown Yellow. The two camouflage colours (when used) were 86 Matt Light Olive and 160 German Camouflage Red Brown

 

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ntrocket88

93 posts

As Tomek22 said, it depends on the make and type of paint you prefer. And also on how accurate you care to be! Few subjects cause more angst on the net than 'what is the most accurate color for a..."

My personal preference is for Humbrol enamels. The Airfix StuG III represents one manufactured in early 1944 so it would have left the factory in dunkelgelb (dark yellow) with cans of dark green and red/brown supplied for the crew to apply to meet local camoflage needs. I would recommend H94 for the overall dunkelgelb or H84 for the lighter version. Camoflage can be added with light olive H86 and/or red/brown H160.

For the T34, I believe Humbrol H117 is recommend for Soviet 4BO green, and Mike Starmer has this as a mid point, adding H150 to lighten and H116 to darken as wartime production varied considerably in shade.

Hope this helps!

John Symmons

978 posts

Him Sherlock 82.

 

I wouldn't worry too much about the really correct colours and shades unless you're going to model a pristine one right off the production line, and even then they varied. As Ratch and Ntrocket 88 said the base colour was a dull dirty sandy yellow but in late 1943 or early 44 the yellow was unobtainable and many factories reverted to a dark grey or the tanks even left the factory in a red oxide primer. Also the crews were supposed to camouflage their tanks with supplied green and brown paint. some crews did in a myriad of different patterns some only used the green or the brown paint depending on the time available before they were needed at the front. These greens and browns also varied from dark green (RLM 71) to a light olive green, the browns were more standard being a very reddish brown but had variations due to the solvents used (usually petrol) in shade.

 

A very good paint for German armour is Vallejo and the do colour sets for the various German schemes complete with instructions on how to get the best results with shading and blending. You might like to try a winter scheme as this covers all kinds of evils, and it’s easy and looks great. Just do a basic camouflage without being to fussy with colour and shade then roughly brush white over the whole thing with a semi dry stiff-ish brush. I’ve done several winter schemes and they look great, unfortunately I can’t show them here as the builds are not Airfix.

 

Hope this helps, but do check out the Vallejo acrylic range if you can find them you won’t be disappointed. Looking forward too seeing the results.

 

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Paws4thot

1219 posts

...and, of course, some T-34s at Stalingrad were driven off the end of the production line through the armoury and into battle without visiting the paint shop, so are a plain cast metal "rust" colour. I can't remember the exact shade off-hand, but there is a Humbrol tone, I think between H69 and H99.

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ntrocket88

93 posts

@John Symmons

...As Ratch and Ntrocket 88 said the base colour was a dull dirty sandy yellow but in late 1943 or early 44 the yellow was unobtainable and many factories reverted to a dark grey or the tanks even left the factory in a red oxide primer...

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I think you meant late 1944 into 1945? As I understand it, in late 1944 factories were told to paint overall with the green and apply standard patterns of dark yellow and dark-brown/red-brown or paint overall red-lead primer with patterns of dark yellow and green over it. Just red-lead primer was used in the last desperate weeks, judging by photos of King Tiger in Berlin. Panzer Colours Vols 1-3 suggested that panzer grey may have been used again in 1945, but more recent texts have questioned that. Always possible though. 

@Tomek22

for both Tanks are several colors possible. if you specify your question I can maybe help. what producer do you use?

 

I'll be using the Humbrol acrylics.

 

Cheers

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