Toboldlygo Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 I decided to put the Shack aside and make a start on the newly arrived Wimpy, in a brief break from the Loco commissions (waiting on stuff to arrive). As seen elsewhere on the forum... /media/tinymce_upload/68b782980d61a31558f49ddff63866f0.jpg The interior of the fuselage captures the Geodetic construction to a tee... /media/tinymce_upload/aae5e5f4288afa76d24a4bddcbe7de3b.jpg As usual I'm not following the instructions or the paint colours for the interior (more on that later) /media/tinymce_upload/c51a94e5c9bf1cab7c0f3e4ccfdc590b.jpg I assembled the main parts of the bomb bay floor/interior together and glued most of the frames into place on the portside of the fuselage and used the opposite side to ensure everything lines up. You can leave a number of these frames out (and quite a few other parts and not effect the build) Everything's in paint at the moment, so there'll be more photo's later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2B Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 As usual James I'll be following your build with interest especially in relation to your interior painting choices! I will probably put my Spitfire builds to 1 side to start my Wellington build tonight as the Vicker K.2 I was also waiting for has been delayed till September but probably won't put a thread up until it's finished cos no point having 2 identical builds running at the same time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toboldlygo Posted July 4, 2018 Author Share Posted July 4, 2018 As usual James I'll be following your build with interest especially in relation to your interior painting choices! I will probably put my Spitfire builds to 1 side to start my Wellington build tonight as the Vicker K.2 I was also waiting for has been delayed till September but probably won't put a thread up until it's finished cos no point having 2 identical builds running at the same time?I've used the same basic colour scheme on the interior, as I've used on previous bomber builds. Feel free to post pics in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toboldlygo Posted July 4, 2018 Author Share Posted July 4, 2018 More progress /media/tinymce_upload/6a6f6a9e9893c91c416febf45a5e5d44.jpg /media/tinymce_upload/5662e9acc83fd61c65d75eda6224124a.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toboldlygo Posted July 4, 2018 Author Share Posted July 4, 2018 One thing I have noticed with the tooling of the fuselage, is Airfix have planned for most of the production versions..... from the Mk.1 to the GR. Mk. XIV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2B Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Yes when studying the sprue runners of my kit I noticed that the tooling allows for other kits with flashed over holes for the GR versions antena and the sprues already have the parts for the beam Brownings. But sadly it doesn't look like a Leigh Lite will be included in the GR kit as the fuselage aperture is solid ☹ But back to your build you have made some rapid progress with the fuselage sections and it's looking good!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tweezers Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 I remember many decades ago Barnes Wallis was photographed inside a Wellington fuselarge for the Radio Times magazine. It's colour was greenish white.So I'd be very interested to learn what the instructions suggest for interior colours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toboldlygo Posted July 7, 2018 Author Share Posted July 7, 2018 I remember many decades ago Barnes Wallis was photographed inside a Wellington fuselarge for the Radio Times magazine. It's colour was greenish white.So I'd be very interested to learn what the instructions suggest for interior colours.According to the instructions: Brick Red (70) & Aluminium (56). I chose to use the main (in the instructions) interior colours used on every other Airfix British WW2 Bomber I've built Black (33) and Interior Green (78). Though I use the Vallejo Model Air equivalents: 71.057 (Black for Humbrol 33) and 71.010 Interior Green (for Humbrol 78).. Anyhow, I did manage to make some progress today.. /media/tinymce_upload/25e380f485de5a024e1b72c401743b69.jpg /media/tinymce_upload/930e8fc44756ac523c10ac8551546409.jpg /media/tinymce_upload/295885d9e5a126f77f58f9960073947d.jpg /media/tinymce_upload/d698b10183051068f7207fa3379177e0.jpg 36* parts (and 5 decals) later the fuselage is together.. * It's worth adding parts E46 & 47 (that's 89 & 90 in the instructions) before closing the fuselage up - as it makes fitting & filling easier... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toboldlygo Posted July 7, 2018 Author Share Posted July 7, 2018 Tail & Rudder in place... /media/tinymce_upload/4fa94bf0abc175ade9dcfd1c01b7c054.jpg She does look 'Wimpy' next to the Shackleton... /media/tinymce_upload/8588da4d5fcd4b5c426926740fc52b96.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2B Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 More good progress James and it's looking good. The interior colour is a mute point, I saw a modellers image of the interior in black with highlighted framework, similar to yours which looked really good which I may follow? But when I did my Swordfish my research showed the interior fabric to be a pinkish colour due to the dope used to taughten the fabric outer skin! Hence this is 1 of the reasons why I have only just started to assemble the wings until I decide exactly which direction I'm going lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratch Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 But when I did my Swordfish my research showed the interior fabric to be a pinkish colour due to the dope used to taughten the fabric outer skin!That's right, the linen was doped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tweezers Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 So am I correct in assuming:Brick red = tall thingys. James has painted his yellow.Aluminium = girder structure.Pinkish colour = internal fabric.Personally I'll go for my very light green for internal fabric.Looking forward to purchasing mine soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toboldlygo Posted July 8, 2018 Author Share Posted July 8, 2018 More good progress James and it's looking good. The interior colour is a mute point, I saw a modellers image of the interior in black with highlighted framework, similar to yours which looked really good which I may follow? But when I did my Swordfish my research showed the interior fabric to be a pinkish colour due to the dope used to taughten the fabric outer skin! Hence this is 1 of the reasons why I have only just started to assemble the wings until I decide exactly which direction I'm going lol It's up to you what you follow, but Airfix I suspect got most of the information from Brooklands (from the original drawings) and have based the Wimpy interior colour scheme on the Factory Specs which would be correct for when the flew from the factory. However, whether the interior colours stayed like that once a Squadron's Ground Crews got hold of them - I doubt it. They were used for night bombing, so the crews wouldn't want shiney surfaces that could give them away in searchlights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toboldlygo Posted July 8, 2018 Author Share Posted July 8, 2018 So am I correct in assuming:Brick red = tall thingys. James has painted his yellow.Aluminium = girder structure.Pinkish colour = internal fabric.Personally I'll go for my very light green for internal fabric.Looking forward to purchasing mine soon. The tall thingy's on the Starboard side of the fuselage should be yellow. Fresh from factory the geodetic framework - Silver/Aluminium Internal side of the doped linen - Pinkish or Brick red according to the instructions. I'd go for a Light/ Interior Green for the cockpit/nose/tailgunners positons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toboldlygo Posted July 8, 2018 Author Share Posted July 8, 2018 More progress today, before I have to go back to my Loco Commissions.. Wings assembled & test fitted. /media/tinymce_upload/1c4ce9b38e8da84fdd8d372df274b0e5.jpg Wings final assembled (for now), tail-planes/elevators assembled. These parts haven't yet been glued into place (to aid painting) - but are a very good fit straight from the box so to speak. /media/tinymce_upload/93ba300553562d451bec7b13b0b9e4b5.jpg /media/tinymce_upload/94289375bc8ab0ea6297dbefd492d34f.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2B Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 But when I did my Swordfish my research showed the interior fabric to be a pinkish colour due to the dope used to taughten the fabric outer skin!That's right, the linen was dopedYes I used the pink dope colour on my Swordfish (though I toned down Airfix's M70 Brick Red Suggestion)/media/tinymce_upload/e3cb2934d2029685f046fd38add34051.JPGStill undecided if I should should go the same way on my Wimpy or follow the interior 'black' route? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2B Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 So am I correct in assuming:Brick red = tall thingys. James has painted his yellow.Aluminium = girder structure.Pinkish colour = internal fabric.Personally I'll go for my very light green for internal fabric.Looking forward to purchasing mine soon.If I'm not mistaken the 'tall thingys' are Photo Flash Bombs which are delivered by hand by the crew down the chute on the starboard wide just to the rear of the wing. Research of ordnance websites shows the colour to be black body with red tail/fins, but as early in WW2 most RAF ordnance was painted pale yellow or buff, Airfix's colour call-out in yellow maybe correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2B Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 @ James Lots of good PROGRESS! You'll have it finished in a week and put me to shame, I've only done a few parts so far 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic Thomas Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Looking good so far. Any possibility of a detailed shot of the bomb bay when you get a chance? I have looked at the instructions on another site [tapa] and am confused about how the completed bay should look. Is it a thre-section bay, and are there bombs for all sections? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2B Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 @ Dominic Thomas I'm sure James will do a photo for you when he gets to that stage but the bomb bay is made up of the main fuselage floor and sides with the open bay doors already moulded in place. These are well done and can be removed if you opt for a closed bomb bay as a separate part is included for this. There is a large geodetic partition part to be fitted down the centre of the bomb bay which the six 500lb bombs, which are included in the kit attach to. I hope this helps ....... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic Thomas Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 T2B,Yes it does help, thank you. When I was trying to make sense of the instructions without the benefit of the kit parts in front of me, I could see what seemed to be a large central partition with bombs either side, but that looked to be taking up a fair volume of the bomb bay, which didn’t make sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic Thomas Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 It’ll no doubt become clear when I buy the kit.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toboldlygo Posted July 9, 2018 Author Share Posted July 9, 2018 @ James Lots of good PROGRESS! You'll have it finished in a week and put me to shame, I've only done a few parts so far 🤔 The fuselage is the time waster - so many parts to paint and add. I found the wings straight forward though fitting the engine nacelles through the lower wing section are a little tight and you can't fit the tail planes wrong as they are handed. I have a slight issue with a malformed undercarriage part (E2) - I should be able to adjust it though, in any event I'll be contacting Airfix to request a replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2B Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 It’ll no doubt become clear when I buy the kit....The Wellington has quite a large bomb bay compared to other early war bombers like the Whitley or Hampden, or even the first 4 engined bomber the Short Stirling with it's numerous bomb cells which didn't allow scope for the larger bombs used later in the war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2B Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 @ james_mower I've only started fitting the engine nacelles into the lower wings with no problems so far but I'm omitting the under-carriage parts as my first build of the Wellington with be in flight, and also will omit several internal fuselage parts. I will check that malformed part when I get home tonight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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